We don’t need no education
We don’t need no thought control
No dark sarcasm in the classroom
Teachers leave them kids alone

For anyone who does not know, these are some of the lyrics from Another Brick in The Wall, Part 2, from The Wall by Pink Floyd.  Pink Floyd is my favorite band of all time.  I haven’t really listened to them since I came into the Kingdom but I still can’t deny that I think this. 

Roger Waters wrote this song as an attack against a specific type of learning. The lyrics rebuke those teachers who use “thought control” and “dark sarcasm” to mold the school children into mindless drones of society. While there seems to be no specific allusion to Aldous Huxley’s Brave New World, there are certainly parallels between Huxley’s vision of future “education” and the rote learning of Pink’s (Waters fictional character) teachers. Huxley’s novel presents children learning largely through hypnopedia, a process of repeating fundamental lessons to each child as he or she sleeps. Although the specific lessons depend upon the child’s social status, there are certain governing “truths” that are taught which all must abide by.

The outcome is a loss of individuality and the molding of each child into identical cells in the body of society. Though the educational system Waters is speaking out against is not as subliminal as Huxley’s vision, the effects are the same, producing social clones who know the definition of an acre yet who cannot produce an original, imaginative thought throughout the majority of their lives. This is a song about reclaiming stifled individuality; it’s a criticism regarding the types of teachers and systems that ridicule an imaginative child for writing poetry, as in Pink’s case.

So what does all of this have to do with what I am talking about in this thesis on spiritual warfare and how we are to be combat ready?

In this post, I wrote that I believe our adversary uses Academics and the pursuit of knowledge as a weapon against us.  One way that I believe the enemy has corrupted theological education and knowledge is by the division of doctrinal thought to a degree that keeps us from being willing to hear another side, leading to the current state of disunity in the body of Christ concerning a lot of doctrinal issues. 

I read a lot and I read all sides.  I am not afraid to read viewpoints from Pentecostals, Catholics, evangelicals, fundamentalists, Calvinists, Armenians, atheists and even devil worshippers.  I feel a need to know what other believers believe and what non believers are doing.  Without this knowledge, how can I possibly be prepared for an assault?  Can I even recognize an assault?

Shouldn’t all knowledge and the pursuit of it lead to a better understanding of God?  Instead, in most of what I read, I do not necessarily see a pursuit as much as a presentation of what I should believe.  Those who hold to a deterministic view of God’s sovereignty will quickly declare the open theist a heretic.  A lot of tongue talking Pentecostals will not give a cessationists book a second glance.  And just let someone declare misgivings or misunderstanding concerning the trinity. 

We are never going to agree on everything but shouldn’t we be teachable and open?  Shouldn’t we be able to listen with an open heart and mind and be willing to accept that maybe, just maybe, we might be wrong? 

On another site I was in a discussion about free will when someone commented that God’s purposes cannot be thwarted.  (Job 42:2) She meant it in the sense that whatever happens does so because God wants or causes it to happen. When I questioned her about evil, of course she went back to that statement taken from Job and that is where she made her stand.  I realized I was wasting my time after having that one verse thrown, like some kind of grenade, at me numerous times. It may sound harsh but I do not think she has an open mind and will probably never think on her own.  She has been “taught” a certain doctrine and is okay staying right there.  It brings her comfort but I doubt that someone who just lost a loved one from a long drawn out terminal illness, or a child to a disease, or a spouse cut down in a gangland shooting, would find her “grenade” any comfort at all.

The schools and seminary’s seem to be divided along denominational lines and it seems that almost all of those that go to reformed schools stay reformed, fundamentalists stay fundamental, and so on.  Which in any other type of learning would probably be okay. 

But if there is one Holy Spirit who is supposed to guide us into all truth and we all have that Spirit in us, then why are there so many different schools of thought, and why do we have to attach labels to everything?  If we all do not agree, then someone is wrong.  We must be willing to admit that it might just be me and hear someone else out.  And what about those educated, distinguished, esteemed teachers of the truth, (that never seem to bend or give.)?  They need to realize that in the training of the body of Christ there is no room for “thought control” and “dark sarcasm”.  We do not need any more mindless drones in the Kingdom of God.  We need thinkers.  People willing to possibly go outside the normal theological stances and see what exactly we have wrong. 

And we are wrong.  There is just too much evidence of it.  Not only the division of the body but there is the lack of empowerment and influence to even maintain current levels of Kingdom population.    

A final thought on all this takes us back to what I said in the post linked above.  In the Word of God  there are some warnings about knowledge and the pursuit of it.  (Luk 11:52, 1 Cor 8:1, 1 Cor 13:2)  If knowledge is not shared, if it brings about pride, or if it is presented with no love, it is not of God or of any good to Him.  God wants us to seek knowledge and wisdom.  But it is Godly knowledge not worldly that is to be sought.  Any other becomes a deadly weapon to be exploited by the enemy. 

Some of our most intelligent, intellectual theologians have reached a place where they are no longer teachable.  And in their arrogance they do a lot of harm to the body of Christ thru division and debate.  They have become prideful and unloving in their exposition of truth.  The more some learn about God the less they look like Him. 

Our Father asks us to “Come now, let us reason together… Isa 1:18.  I believe this reasoning with God and with each other is a necessary component of our combat readiness training.

Education and knowledge contribute to wisdom, but they are not wisdom.  You won’t get that from seminary.

So I can’t say “We don’t need no education” but I can definitely say “We don’t need no thought control”.

Love you all

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john
 1 

perhaps there are so many schools of thought becouse there actuially are many roads to heaven. as you know i use to believe this very strongly but you wittled away at that untill i now think there are fewer roads to heaven than i use too! i think that the real truth lies somewhere in that middle ground that you and i often talk about. nobodys got it all right and probibly never will untill we are all of one faith in heaven.

October 26th, 2008 at 9:59 pm
Sonny
 2 

We can and do disagree on a lot of topics. But there are some things that our God Himself said in pretty plain terms. The following is one and I see no way to twist, distort, misunderstand or spin it. And as we have discussed, trying to, in the case of our eternal distortion, is very dangerous.

Joh 14:6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

Love you

October 26th, 2008 at 10:14 pm
Justin A
 3 

The thought control that I see is that people are given selective knowledge so that they can’t make good decisions. One example is that people aren’t told of the progress of the baby before she/he is born. That makes it easier for the abortion industry to call the baby a “blob of tissue” when it is actually a tiny baby with fingerprints, a beating heart, etc.

Another example is the removal from textbooks of all the writings of the founders of the United States about their reliance on God. To pick one, the removal from textbooks of George Washington’s farewell speech. Wouldn’t you think if anything made the cut for the history of the U.S., the farewell speech of the first president would make it? Especially if, during that speech, he spoke of how we would have to act as a nation to keep what we had. He really stressed religion and morality. Wouldn’t you think a good subject for history would be the commonality of the individual state constitutions? They all required belief in God as a requirement for public service. Some even went so far as to require a public profession of the trinity. You could argue that maybe they shouldn’t have done so. But, if you knew the facts, you could not argue that the U.S. was founded as a secular nation. To leave out these facts and teach that the U.S. was founded as secular is indeed mind control and propaganda.

It is important to think. It is equally important to know facts so that you think correctly. The opposite end of the spectrum from your comment is people that think but without knowledge. For example, I noticed during the trial of President Clinton that the news would offer the results of surveys each day as to whether people thought the President was guilty. They would always get results. The people answering the surveydid not even know what was being presented as evidence at the trial, yet they would offer their opinion on guilt or innocence. I think a lot of people are quick to offer what they think but without knowledge. Maybe if we were forced to offer evidence to back up our reasoning we could get somewhere.

Final thought for now on this subject. One pet peeve I have concerning the subject that you raised is that I have heard sermons that mentioned the scripture about rain falling on the just and the unjust as a reason why bad things happen to good people. It so happens that the scripture is talking about the opposite. Why good things happen to bad people. We all need to keep our thinking caps on and not blindly buy into everything we are told. (I can’t help but point out that it was an ordained bishop talking.) (Actually, of course, I really could have refrained from making this point. I just wanted to address the issue from the Calvinist perspective.)

October 27th, 2008 at 6:41 am
Sonny
 4 

Justin,

Great comments and I agree. I am trying not to let my individuall posts get too wordy. From what I have read (educating myself) about blogs, I will turn some away if they get too long.

So I have hoped that the thought that I initiate will get expanded through the comments. You are doing this and I thank you and am glad you started commenting.

It seems we agree that there are a lot of things wrong in the system, both secular and theological. We do have to think, which is the first thing that I think most let others do for them, and we have to dig for information and test what we are told.

As far as the bishop comment, I hope you do not think that I never test what someone says just because of credentials. In my other comment I was just referencing the fact that some are never willing to let a man of God try anything new. We all must test all things AND trust our leaders. Hopefully they always hear from God, even though we know they do not.

Love you

October 27th, 2008 at 10:15 am
Connie Davis
 5 

I was just remembering what John Ritcheson said one night during revival. “Sometimes the more education you obtain on a subject can just create more doubt”. Don’t really know if that has anything to do with this. :?:

Anyway, this was a good post. Nothing to add except that I’m blown away that Pink Floyd was your favorite band of all times :lol: Bet you never thought you would be using those lyrics in a Christian blog.

Love U,
Connie

October 27th, 2008 at 4:57 pm
Sonny
 6 

Connie,

No, I did not anticipate that. Wonder if I will run anybody off if I weave Metallica into the stream of thought. ;)

Love you

October 27th, 2008 at 5:03 pm
Lord Asriel
 7 

You got to be kidding here. Education, thought. you religious freaks don’t think, and if you did you would know what a load you are believing.

and I doubt if you were ever a atheist.

October 27th, 2008 at 9:29 pm
Sonny
 8 

Asriel,

Welcome. As you probably see I edited your comment. Not censored, just cleaned up the language. I won’t allow that here. I will allow your comments but I hope they become more constructive rather than just belittling.

I can’t make you believe anything but I would love to here some of the reasons you think we are believing a “load”. :?

Love you

October 27th, 2008 at 9:39 pm
Chris
 9 

**Slaves- Hebrews born to serve, to the pharaoh – Heed to his every word, live in fear
Faith of the unknown one, the deliverer
Wait – Something must be done, four hundred years
*Chorus*
*So let it be written
So let it be done
I’m sent here by the chosen one
So let it be written
So let it be done
To kill the first born pharaoh’s son
I’m creeping death*

Now – Let my people go, land of Goshen
Go – I will be with thee, bush of fire
Blood running red and strong down the Nile
Plague – Darkness three days long, hail to fire

So let it be written

*chorus repeats*

Die by my hand
I creep across the land
Killing first-born man
Die by my hand
I creep across the land
Killing first-born man

I rule the midnight air, the destroyer
Born – I shall soon be there, deadly mass
I – creep the steps and floor, final darkness
Blood – Lambs blood painted door, I shall pass

*Chorus repeats*

I’ll wager that most here would recognize this story, but not the source. I know this does not relate directly to the topic, but it just shows there are some lessons and information we can get from a song.

These Lyrics happen to be from Metallica, and the song is called Creeping Death.

Just FYI

Chris

October 30th, 2008 at 11:33 pm
Sonny
 10 

I recognized it pretty quickly. And even though Metallica used a biblical story, it might not be the best place to develop our theology. :D

And that goes for “christian” music also.

Love you Chris

October 31st, 2008 at 12:22 am

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