I am sorry if it seemed I was coming at you. I get a little passionate about this issue, and I very much agree with you that we need to focus on solutions as the church of Jesus Christ. Again, I didnt mean to appear as though I was coming at you personally. I meant to direct it at the pro-choice camp.

I see now that we are saying the same thing. Don’t depent on legislation, start doing something now about this issue.

Blessings!

Power is no blessing in itself, except when it is used to protect the innocent.
Jonathan Swift (1667-1745)

Sonny, you never ceased to amaze me with your passion and talent. Good story.

I just had a baby 3 months prior, had a tumor removed from the outer layer of my brain, spent 10 days in a comma! I used precaution against pregnancy but it happened the night I came home from the hospital!

Yes, my body was weak and I feared the worse for my unborn child. I made up my mind that God had a purpose for this pregnancy, and this child and I knew I would have to fight every step of the way!

I was hospitalized during my last 6 weeks of this pregnancy, ran a fever of 104 and my kidneys shut down! The report coming from the doctors was they could save the baby but I might not make it. I told my husband to prepare to raise 4 children because I might die, but I was determined to give this child life!

Do you get the impression I am AGAIST abortion?!!!! I do not believe God meant for us to look at abortion as a choice. To legalized abortion will only say to those seeking one, its okay!

The next time any of you have the pleasure of meeting my son, my miracle baby…Kirk, please take a good look at what the doctors wanted to destroy! I thank God everytime I look at my son for giving my the strength to fight the odds and give him life!

Jonna, my first born grand daughter, was almost an abortion as well. Her mother went to Save-a-life, thinking she was going to an abortion clinic to find out about her options to terminate this pregnancy. Instead she was met with a woman of God who told her about the gift of life in her womb and the blessing God had given her. I praise God everyday for the babies that were given the chance to live! It grieves my heart for those who are destroyed by the works of the enemy!

Dee

Even the mentioning of it being a “womans right to choose” makes me want to respond with righteous indignation, but this is not the place for that. I do disagree on this point and believe the child should be protected, both by law and love.

Any woman that has had an abortion can be forgiven just as easy as a drunk or liar. This is not a question of forgivness or whose sin is “bigger”. I think the problem is much of the christians (christian meaning christ-like) have drank the koolaid of this sinful world. Can you imagine Jesus saying, “it’s ok to kill that baby… it’s the womans choice.”? Much of the abortion issue stems from the feminist movement, in which people start equating trying to save a babys life with “oppressing women”.

If I have responded a little strong, I apologize. I don’t want to bomb clinics or shoot abortion doctors. All I want is to see the church taking a more proactive stance on the issue by loving the struggling mothers and even adopting these “unwanted” babies.

I hate to hear some of the arguments,’ her body’, Well, she should have realized how important her body was to her before she made a baby! How can we change a young girls image of herself in her own eyes when they reject everything moral and good?

‘She is too young’, that was the excuse given to us when the other grandparent forced an abortion on their daughter. She was young, but it was not a medical threat posed to her that was their true motivation, it was the inconvenience or embarassment they may have felt!

One of my (least) favorites is ‘If they have a baby they do not want, then the possiblity of abuse is greater’. I mean, you cannot get more abusive than murder!!

‘It should be her choice’, I agree with Sonny, why does the baby not deserve a choice?

There will always be people that will not uphold the law, they will reject and abuse it; but even if we could show how valuable this little life is and a law was created against the procedures, going so far as to prosecute anyone who attempted to have or perform an abortion, would we be known as protectors of life or as intolerant people who do not try to understand? When did this world get turned inside out? Why do we not succeed in these important issues? Have we given up?
I think that if we could or should start any where, it would be in the home. I know that even girls raised in a “perfect” environment seek abortions, but if we talked to them as individuals, we may find that although they knew their dad loved them, they did not feel an unconditional love. Dads are who the daughters model most of their relationships after.
One more thing, we do not invest in the lives of others. When I was growing up, it did not matter where I was, if there was an adult present, they were my ‘parent’. If I stepped out of line, they put me right back in, then they told my parent and I got it much worse. The community was the support group for the parents. Now if you even look at someone else’s kid in a corrective way, you have made an enemy. Even in church, we have a fear of offending someone if we try to guide their child in any way. We need to find ways for our young people to see us as approachable and safe. Not to take the place of the parent or go against the parent, but in support of parent and the children.

Older parents can sometimes change plans and be an inconvience are they next?

I agree with a lot of what you said. I think we have hurt our cause by some of our past actions. Jason, on his blog that I provided the link to, is asking for practical, real solutions to this issue. Where I disagree with you, even though I am not a woman, is that women should have a choice. It may be their body, but that child inside you has a body also.

This fictional scene I wrote is where we are headed. It may seem far fetched now but I would dare say that if you were to ask Brother Cobb if he thought when he was 25 that today there would be over forty million babies killed in the name of choice he would say no.

Peter Singer already advocates the murder of babies up to a couple of years old if certain circumstances occur. (I believe I have this right) I do know he places more value on animals rights than the unborn for sure.

We need to be consistent. We need to stand for the unborn in effective ways and not forget about the “born” while we are at it.

If you have any suggestions, please share here but go read and share on Jasons blog also.

Thanks for all the comments so far

Love you all

Honestly, I am totally against abortion in every way form or fashion however; being a women I also feel that a women should have the right to choose. Being a christian my belief is she should choose to keep her legs together but hey anyway. I know many people wont like this, but we say all the time that in God’s eyes no sin is greater than another and the murder of an unborn child is like a grown man taking a life in a bar fight. Sadly I fill that like in our past that even if abortion were outlawed women would still have them and the regulations and safety of those patients would be compromised. No matter our feelings on the subject I think the need for safe abortion is necessary since it wont stop. I think our best option to reach those women and men who need to know what they are doing is the same mission we have now, reach them with the message of Salvation! We cant stop them if they are determined but we can tell them there is a better way!

People claiming to be christians standing in protest outside of abortion clinics and those who go as far as bombing them are just hurting our cause. We as christians cant convince the lost that we love them and accept them no matter what and that God is the same way if that is our behavior. That doesnt show love.

I would love to go into schools (starting in middle school, since that is the new age to start with the sex and sometimes younger) and speak with all the girls about God’s love and forgiveness and the choice that we all have to stay pure until marriage and that an unborn fetus is a creation of Gods and matters to Him and that even if it was an accident that aborting a baby is not the way. If we could just reach out to our young people and bring them to Christ then maybe we wouldnt have to tell them that abortion is not the answer.

I do agree we need to be more vocal. I think foremost we need to offer the message of Salvation! In love.

Beth