Comments on: Have We Forgotten?

By: Sonny

Sonny — Mon, 04 May 2009 23:13:57 +0000

If you can get every one to read it then you might get some dialogue going. Personally, I have already been incorporating some of it in my Wednesday night discussions. The last time I tried a strict book study it did not go over very well. You might also test it out as a teaching study at the Bridge meetings maybe once a month.

I do agree about Kingdom advancement at ACOG. And probably in a lot of places. The leaders are who must be on board for change to occur.

Love you all

By: Shannon Mimbs

Shannon Mimbs — Mon, 04 May 2009 22:53:59 +0000

Maybe starting tomorrow, the math stuff will come more readily to both of us. As far as the next book venture goes, I don’t think that you can go wrong with either one. I really enjoyed Camp’s book and think it is an important resource in our research concerning the project that I mentioned to you a while back. But, at the same time, Boyd’s book (by what I see in the chapter titles and introduction) seems to be spot on as well.

I wonder if it would be fruitful to try a book study with Hirsch’s book at the church. This way, folks of various ages would have opportunity to dig in to the study, fellowship a bit more, engage in dialogue about the topics at hand, and maybe get on the same page concerning its overarching message; kind of like, Theological Table Talk for about a 6 week session, held during choir practice or immediately afterward. I know so many are already traveling quite extensively throughout the week, so maybe we can do it on a day that dovetails nicely with another program/study. Just trying to think of a way to get others critiquing or engaging Hirsch’s (NT) material in our current context. In my opinion, if we don’t make room for such critique (in our context) and subsequent (intense) dialogue, then Kingdom advancement in Alabaster will continue to be stifled.

By: Sonny

Sonny — Mon, 04 May 2009 17:27:35 +0000

I have been trying to look into this math stuff. (And really still not retaining or remembering what I do not already know). So the reading has not been kept up with. Mere Discipleship or Boyds newest is next though.

And speaking of leadership, I hate it but I am not a leader in our church. To some degree I may have some say but not enough for what this book of Hirsch’s has challenged me about. That is what bothers me. I really just want to leave a denomination that seems to be so totally focused on itself and try to figure out how to get to being and doing as this book challenges me to. It was possibly one of the worst books that you recommended to me for the time and thought pattern I find myself to be in. It awakens in me once again the idea that I am just spinning wheels and not really getting anywhere.

I’ll just keep on praying and hoping something comes to light that will enable me to see a way to do as God wants me to do.

Love you all

By: Shannon Mimbs

Shannon Mimbs — Mon, 04 May 2009 05:48:18 +0000

After I read The Forgotten Ways by Hirsch, I too felt as if he was articulating a burden that was in my heart that I didn’t know quite how to put into words. And the amazing thing is that Hirsch is a denominational leader, whose denomination is open to his critique and guidance in turning things around for the better. Hirsch admits that he doesn’t have all the answers, but what he does (in my opinion) is to help the church to ask the right questions. I highly recommend this book as well. Sonny, I’m glad you read the book. Which books are you currently working on? (As the saying goes, “Good leaders are good readers.”)