I do not like any of them enough to claim to be affiliated with them. I am trying to learn from the Bible itself, and hope I get it close to right at some point.

I will take a look at the books when I have some time.

Love you,

Chris

Chris: The Catholics actually are better at this than most, but still not great.They are always including other Christians and even the Jewish people into their discussions of the coming together.They believe that in the end we will all be together once “our beliefs” are in line with the church.At least they are open to the idea.I love the idea of church, but in the words of U2 “I Still Haven’t Found What I’m Looking For”
Love to you and yours,Chris

Chris

This is where I do have to disagree. The Catholic church is as bad as any other because what they really mean at the institutional level is we can all be together when we believe their way also. Whenever a Catholic teacher talks about the church they are almost universally talking about the holy Roman Catholic Church and not the people of God, who are the true Church. No institution, denomination, or any other group are Jesus’ Church. Only true servants of the Lord and they are all over the world and calling themselves many different things.

I, also, have not found what I am looking for.

If you do not mind reading a couple of books that have recently shook up my whole spiritual church going worldview, try these.

The Forgotten Ways by Alan Hirsch and Mere Discipleship by Lee C Camp

There are Amazon links at the bottom of the front page of the Blog under Suggested reading

Love you

This is at the heart of many of my issues with the church in general.

I am not saying church is bad. I truly do enjoy going to church. However, I have to take everything I hear with a grain of salt. This is any church I have been in, not just Church of God, Baptist, or Catholic, but all the churches I have been in.

The message that is given through the Sunday School Classes, the Sermon, Homily, etc. are great, but there is always some underlying message that doesn’t seem to come from God.

It is always subtle things about how this group or that group have this or that wrong. They could be using specific Church Dogma, and traditions to speak “truth”, but in the end they are just keeping the division and the mistrust going.

The problem is in most churches, they only take what they want from the Bible and leave the rest out. You know the part that suits them.

They also do the same with people. Most church goers won’t tell someone directly to leave, but they gradually push them out by making them feel bad or completely unwelcome.

So in short it is hard to get new fish if the aquarium is not allowed to grow. They see things through a little distorted glass bowl, and cannot accept that others might also be right.

The Catholics actually are better at this than most, but still not great. They are always including other Christians and even the Jewish people into their discussions of the coming together. They believe that in the end we will all be together once “our beliefs” are in line with the church. At least they are open to the idea.

I am sorry to ramble, but I could go into a more mean and disgruntled view if you wish. Hopefully, you all understand where I stand.

I love the idea of church, but in the words of U2 “I Still Haven’t Found What I’m Looking For”

Love to you and yours,

Chris