Posts Tagged ‘alcohol’

19
Feb

Behind Closed Doors

   Posted by: Sonny    in Appearance, Belief, Body of Christ, Love, Relevance, witness

argumentA couple of days ago I asked some questions about alcohol and whether the bible condemns all consumption of it as sin.  On the face of this it seems pretty certain that it is not.  Any casual reader of the stories of Jesus would recognize the fact that His first recorded miracle was turning water into wine.  And there are other direct references of His very own consumption of it.  Yet I have read and heard many arguments about it being sin.

There are those that will use all kind of pretty far out excuses to say that this is not really saying what we think.  The scripture is not saying what it seems to say.  Grape juice?  Really?  Are we to believe that God is just trying His best to confuse us?

There are those that, in the past and probably still today, say that it is even wrong for a Christian to serve or sell alcohol.  Again, I point to Christ’s first miracle.  If I should not serve or sell it then why in the world would Jesus turn water into it?  We seem to still have tremendous problems with self-righteousness.

These thoughts and questions are not really the reason I raised this question though.  For some very thoughtful, adult insights about the consumption argument in general, please read Tuesdays post and comments.  Everyone who responded made points I not only believe to be correct but I hold to them myself.  And I especially think that when you vow or commit to something as Heath and Jason did as ministers, then you should adhere to those commitments like they pointed out that they did.

If the organization you join says you have to stand on one foot for 30 seconds and face east at 8:00 am every third Tuesday and you agree, then you must do it whether it makes sense or not, if you are a person of integrity.  The health and danger issues are also valid reasons why not drinking makes sense, and the witness in a culture that definitely glorifies alcohol as the means to get drunk is not one the Kingdom really needs.  I don’t drink myself for some of these reasons.

As I stated though, I brought it all up for the same reason I have brought up other things recently.  If we spent as much time as some do on defending these obviously unbiblical beliefs such as drinking being sin, with as much zeal and commitment, in reaching out to those outside the Kingdom, we could really glorify God. Instead we waste tremendous amounts of time on our own legalistic views and arguments.

Alcohol is only one small part of a whole host of things that some Christians seem to want to focus on in spite of the fact that they have a mission to do.  Appearances are important as some believe when talking about drinking, but what about the appearance of condemnation we portray that is not even biblically justified.  When the lost of this world see us bickering and fighting and even bringing the charge of heresy against a minister that obviously is not heretical, what do they think?  I will tell you what they think because it was not that long ago that I thought it.  They think that there is no God.  And if there is He is not that big, not that great, and not that powerful because His whole family is so hypocritical and unloving of even each other.

We must reach out in love to a lost and dying world and to do that we have got to stop adding our own lists of sins to Gods.  That is what Jesus condemned about the Pharisees and the bible even warns us about adding to His word, but we just don’t seem to get it.  This world of lost souls is not concerned about our petty arguments and disagreements about alcohol, about divorce, about creation, about (dare I say it) initial evidence.  What this worlds lost souls are concerned about, whether they even know it or not, is the eternal destination of their very being.  And even if they are not concerned, we must be.

As I said on my post about creation recently, let’s stop all the arguing about pet doctrines and interpretations in front of the kids, so to speak, and wait until we get behind closed doors.

Love you all

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17
Feb

Tuesday Town Hall 19…Fruit Of The Vine

   Posted by: Sonny    in Bible, Sin, Townhall Tuesday

tues-town-ha-2lIt seems to me that maybe I have been a little bold lately in some of my posts.  Commenting about controversial issues and even getting a little harsh is some responses.  Some of this stems from a passion for Gods truth while some may just come from that confrontational part of me that I just wrote about and am truly trying to tame.  But it is not tamed and there are good reasons for some of what I ask.  I really am still learning myself.  And one of the ways to learn what we believe is to bounce those beliefs off those that others hold.  So the questions for today may spark more controversy.  I hope not and I really do not want any heated arguments or words of offense.  But I do want to know what you think.

We also touched on this topic a while back in some of the comments.  That post was not about this exactly and really had another focus.  So if you replied there about this topic you can fell free to comment again here.

The bible is pretty clear about Gods views on drunkenness.  Most people do not see such clear lines about alcohol consumption though.

What do you think the bible says about consuming alcohol?

What do you personally think about consuming alcohol and why?

Please keep it civil but tell us what you think.

Love you all

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22
Jan

Prayer And Partnership

   Posted by: Sonny    in Kingdom, Prayer

We are all different and amazingly, God will use us right where we are.  We all have a story, and my story is a part of His story, because He wants it that way.

So I want to talk about my first prayer. Three days and seven years ago, I was a little like Robinson Crusoe.  That is a story with part of its focus being about how Robinson, a man shipwrecked for 28 years, becomes closer to God, not through listening to sermons in a church but through spending time alone amongst nature, with only a Bible to read.  He gets close to God through Communion with God and through prayer.

castaway-beachThere I was, castaway on my island, alone in an apartment in Hoover with no one but God for three days after the incident where He introduced Himself to me.  The alcohol was gone, the wrestling with who He was, was over, the long phone conversation with Tammy that afternoon was finished.  I was finally sure of who He was.  And at some time I simply fell to my knees in that apartment, on that hard carpet covered concrete floor.

I did not quietly ask Jesus into my heart and seek His forgiveness.  Instead, I slammed my head into the floor a number of times, crying and railing out at God for doing this all now, at this time, when I was alone and was done with life.  Why wait for so long to come and reveal Himself to me.  Everything I worked for was gone.  The one relationship I had cared about was over.  Why now?  I can’t even remember all of the words that I yelled, or all the questions I asked, but I did start to cry at some point.  Tears soaked my face and covered my shirt.  I had never cried like this and had actually not cried very much at all for most of my life.  It was like all of my tears had been dammed up and now the dam was busted wide open.

At some point, I knew that He was there with me.  God had shown up and I realized He was not really giving me answers but He was there to wipe away the tears and get an answer.  I gave Him one, I said yes.

Those early days were filled with prayers.  They were answered prayers.  It was like when a newborn baby cries out and the parents respond as if life depends on it and it does actually.  Newborns are helpless.  Even a little thing like getting too chilled can have life threatening impact on their small fragile persons.  We are that way also when we first enter the Kingdom.  Born again as new spiritual beings we are newborns ourselves.  So fragile, but our Father is nothing else if He is not the proud, protective Father that is there to make sure nothing comes against us.

As I aged a little and started to learn things prayer became a little less rewarding or fulfilling.  It was because I lost some of the childlike simplicity in which I viewed prayer.  I started to feel that it was time I learned to do prayer right.

Then, as we all grow up, or start to, we become like teenagers.  We know it all and don’t feel the need to learn from our Father.  We stop praying as much as we used to and when we do, it is usually just to get something.  All teens rebel to some degree.  Even the best of children defy their parents in some small way with most going much farther.  We do it with our heavenly Father also.  We come to a point where we only look to Him for what He can provide.

But then we hopefully come to the place where we once again see him for who He is and appreciate Him for the simple fact that He loves us and we love Him.  This is where we all should be today.

Some of you may be struggling to pray.  Some of you may not even see the need to pray, except maybe at church.  Some of you may feel that you have what you need, so why pray?  All of these things come from a misunderstanding about what prayer is and how necessary it is, for us personally and for the story of creation and the Kingdom to advance.

What is personal prayer?

As we look across the landscape of scripture, we find many examples or personal prayer and we find many ways of praying.  Who are some of the major pray-ers in the bible?  Remember that prayer happens in a number of ways.  Adam had conversations with God in the garden, Abraham bargained with God, Moses argued, Job railed, Jacob wrestled, Samuel listened in the quiet of the night, the disciples talked to Christ face to face.  We can look in the bible and what we find mostly is personal prayer.  The records of group prayer or church prayer just don’t come close to the amount of people we see on their faces before God individually.  Look at Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Daniel or any of the prophets.  Look at Jesus and the Apostles.  Especially look at Paul.  All of his writings show us a man who prayed.  Sometimes in the middle of his discourse he would break out in prayer.  All of these examples show us something about this relationship with God.  They show us that it is real and it is dynamic.  Not only does he want children, friends, servants and soldiers, he wants partners.

History and the bible show us a God who gives away or shares his power.  Even in the Old Testament we see a God who waits, intervenes, then waits some more for his people to do or make the right choices.  Even today Gods Spirit whispers instead of shouts, trying to align us with the program.

God has partnered with us and has ordained prayer as the means to discuss His will and achieve His will on earth.  That is why ultimately we should pass from a childlike prayer life, utterly depending on Him, to that of requests and petition as teens do, then  to a relational type prayer where we want fellowship with the creator, and finally to a place where His will is what we ultimately want above all else.  We achieve this level when we get to the place where we truly realize who He is and become the partners in creation He want us to be.

Ever since God created and placed Adam in charge of the garden, He actually seems to do very little in creation without the likes of you and me.  When I used to ask, “What is God doing?” I should have asked, “What are Gods people doing?”  Do you realize that according to scripture, those we pray for, Christ prays for?

Although the reformed people would have us believe that God does not change, or ever change his mind, the bible actually shows us that He does and is always willing to if we ask.  Look at Abraham and Sodom and Gomorrah, look at Moses and numerous times while leading the Israelites, look at Jonah and Nineveh, look at Hezekiah and his request for additional years of life.  God even told Jeremiah three times to stop praying because He did not want to change his mind about the rebellious nation of Israel.

Prayer works and prayer is important if any of Gods will is going to be achieved on this planet.  We should be praying like our life depends on it.  We should be persistent and relentless in asking God to bring about His will and His purposes on this planet.  This is how we become those partners, those workers in the fields that God not only so desperately wants, but that He actually needs.  Our persistence shows God we are serious about a thing and that we are willing to do our part.  When you really want something, what do you do?  Are you that persistent in prayer?

It is easy to be a child of God.  Are you ready to become a partner in His-story?

Love you all

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