Posts Tagged ‘Discussion’

16
May

Checking In

   Posted by: Sonny    in Blogging, Body of Christ, Friendship, God

Just wanted to say hi and see if anyone was still out there that might read this.  I started this blog because a friend talked me into it and actually enjoyed the writing and the discussions that it prompted for about a year.  During that year I was sitting at home, doing nothing but getting fat, old and weak due to a lack of work.  Cabinets are hard to sell during this current economic situation.  This is what actually led to a major decision I made, also prompted by friends and my wife.  I enrolled in the University of Alabama at Birmingham as a pre-nursing major at the age of forty-nine.  Then my life changed drastically.

I had to quit teaching Sunday school and a Wednesday night adult class at my church.  I ultimately did not even have much time to attend church.  I also decided to check out some other denominations when I could, not looking for anything in particular, just wanting to see if any of the things I had read about in my studies for classes were true or false.  I also attempted to get as far as possible in my freshman year of college to free up my summer to try to find some work, completing 37 credit hours in these two semesters.  My wife and I have to rely on God more and more as the financial resources are finally gone.  We have seen some awesome signs of Christ in some of those we know and love during the past few months.  Thank God for his people.

We have had some personal tragedies during the past few months that have also affected our lives in ways that we could have never foreseen.  One occurrence in particular is life-changing and will never be over until we enter eternity.  Again, some of Gods children have been there for us and I believe they always will be.  I am thankful for the concern, the support and the prayers of these saints every day.

I want to write some more this summer if I have some time.  I need work though, so that will be my priority.  I start my second year of college in August if the money to pay our bills is available.  This post is short and rambling and is really just an attempt to re-enter the waters.  It is also a simple thank you to all that read this and know of our plight and continue to pray for us.  We covet these prayers. We know that God is here, even if he does not seem to be at times.  We need you, we need God, and we

Love you all

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28
Jul

Tuesday Town Hall 40…Godsmack

   Posted by: Sonny    in Townhall Tuesday

tues-townhallI know that Godsmack is the name of a heavy metal band but that is not what this discussion is about.  I also know that some of you might be wondering where I have been.  Let’s just say that life is a little full and quite hectic right now and I will try to post soon about what is going on and I am trying to get a better handle on this busyness so that I can at least write a couple of times a week again.  Thanks for hanging in there.

As far as the title goes, I am inteested in knowing what you think and believe about God punishing us.  Wondering if He does smack us.

Do you think God punishes today in light of what Jesus showed us concerning His mercy, grace, and love for us?

If you believe He does, what methods do you believe He uses?

What is your justification for your beliefs?

I miss the conversations and hope to not only post some more but I do hope you will comment.

Love you all

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23
Jun

Tuesday Town Hall 37…Success

   Posted by: Sonny    in Application, Church, Townhall Tuesday, witness

tues-town-hall-18A few days ago I was reading some opinions concerning success.  A question was asked about defining “secular” and “spiritual” success.  An early conclusion by one person was that there is no difference between “secular” and “spiritual” success.  I agree with this wholeheartedly.  What does it profit a man to gain the whole world and yet lose his soul?

But the person went on to describe success as follows:

“There may be Christians who never do anything more than volunteer at their church and live their lives as witnesses of their faith, working diligently at their place of employment and raising their family in the fear and admonition of the Lord — they are immense successes.”

So here are my discussion questions for this week.

Do you believe this statement to be true?

Is what is being described here enough to end up being an immense success?

Is there anything you would add to this statement?

Love you all

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“Today’s Christian college students are nauseated by any kind of religious hype: blow-dried evangelists, insincere appeals for offerings, faked healings, goofy buzzwords or schmaltzy Christian pop music. What they crave is reality-honest relationships, healthy mentoring, passionate worship and daring faith that is reflected through brave actions, not just words.”

tues-th“What they crave is reality.”

These words I have quoted are from an opinion piece written by J. Lee Grady, the editor of Charisma magazine.  He defines reality, in a Pentecostal sense, in the last part of the quote.  The questions for today’s discussion concern this reality.

Would you say that he is right or wrong from your own observations?

Do you believe that your own local assembly would be attractive to these Christian college students?

If not, do you see any ways that things could change to make it more attractive?

If you want to read the whole piece, you can find it here.

Love you all

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27
May

Out Of The Closet

   Posted by: Sonny    in Belief, Kingdom, Sovereignty

I am a gay (defined as: showing or characterized by cheerfulness and lighthearted excitement; merry.) open theist.

eye_of_godThere, I have said it.  I have been writing from this frame of mind ever since I started this blog but have been hesitant to label myself.  The open theist label, that is.  The reason for this is mainly that I hate labels.  They never really justify anyone’s beliefs totally.  I constantly hear people refer to themselves as three point Calvinists or four point Calvinists.  What does this really mean?  If you are a Calvinist, then you are, right?  And most Arminians really do not even know who they are or what it means.

Open theism is the same way.  There are many proponents of this view and none of them agree on all the intricacies of this theological worldview.  That is one of the reasons I hate labels; they are never really accurate in describing anyone’s total belief system.   Another, and even more valid reason is, that once you label yourself, most dismiss your views, thoughts, discussions and relevance out of hand.  I have seen many people ostracized and labeled as heretical from the start once they say they are an open theist.  And many times by people that do not even know what it means.

I believe this viewpoint is biblically sound, addresses almost all the problems I ever had as an atheist, and actually reflects the way we all live as Christians already.  We just can’t seem to let go of some of the eisegesis of scripture that has come before us.  We ask questions like: who are we to question the early church fathers, those greats of traditional scriptural thought.  Well, have you ever thought about the fact that not all of those agreed with each other.  If they had I would be one of the first to give what they have said credence.  My own denomination has had loads of changes over the last one hundred years of doctrine but some are still so dogmatic about their own current beliefs to the point that they argue that they cannot be wrong and any who oppose them are therefore, heretical.

Open theism really boils down to an argument about God’s omniscience.  Does God live outside and above time?  Does God know every free will choice we will ever make in the future?  Is the future something that exists already to even be known or is it just something that unfolds as choices are made and therefore becomes the present?

I simply do not see how free will exists if God already knows all the choice in front of me as facts.  I am okay and actually believe He does know all of my future choices as possibilities.  A great book to introduce you to this whole concept is “God of the Possible: A Biblical Introduction to the Open View of God” by Greg Boyd.  But the discussion has to go deeper than just do I or anyone else have free will, even in this viewpoint.  I keep being bombarded with the question about Peter’s free will and whether God allowed, foresaw or actually made Peter deny Christ.  I believe I have answered this but I do realize that just maybe it was too spread out among the posts and comments to ascertain.

So here is part of what I believe about our free will and I believe it answers any question about Peter’s free will.

For God to truly have loving relationships with His creation He had to make us with free will.  Our choices are our own.  Peter’s choices were His own.  But a major choice he made was to follow Jesus.  I believe part of the whole concept of servant hood to God is that we come to a place where we turn our free will over to Him and allow His will to take over.  Peter was on that path.  He stood and declared that he would never fall in following our Lord but our Lord knew him better than he knew himself.  He knew that there was still a pride issue Peter had to overcome to be the man that God wanted him to be.

So the simple answer is that yes, I believe God possibly, and take note I said possibly, caused Peter to deny Jesus.  This is not a big problem to me because it is actually where we all are supposed to be.  We are supposed to make a free will choice to follow God and part of this, a major part, is giving Him our free will. Is this not what we are doing when we ask Him to direct and lead us as we live for Him?  Peter had already come to this place and God used this opportunity for his growth.

The argument against my belief of this issue is pointed toward making me out to say that I do not even believe in free will.  That is not the case.  But the last thing about this is that no matter what, God is God and can and has suspended our free will on many occasions.  Look at Pharaoh, look at Jonah, look at Job, look at all the people destroyed in the Old Testament, look at your own life where God got you to do something you really did not want to do.  All of these examples do not in any way mean that free will does not exist.

If this does not answer the endless questions about my belief concerning Peter and his denial, then I am incapable of answering what I believe.  If that is the case, I am sorry.

I pray we all use our free will choice to turn our free will over to Jesus.

Love you all

And in case you are wondering, the opening statement was not only to get your attention and to generate Google hits, I am cheerful, excited and merry (gay) because open theism truly does answer more of the unanswerable questions that skeptics have.  The mission field is wide open.  Let’s go.

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